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New Post 01/06/2008 01:27
User is offline knight
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Re : Charge Certificate - Ealing Council 
Modified By knight  on 05/06/2008 12:34:34)

Dear  Colleagues,

I  will  try  to  be  brief  and  as  succinct  as  possible

I  was  sent  a  charging  certificate  which  was  cancelled  because  I  had  posted  a  valid  statutory  declaration.  I  have  now  found  out  that  the  charge certificate is legally  invalid - which  cancels  the  original  PCN. 

Could  I  use  the  following  argument  in  front  of  the  Adjudicator :

If  the  charge  certificate  was  legally  valid,  then  if  it  was  cancelled  by  the  statutory  declaration, the  original  PCN  would  still  stand.

Because  the  charge  certificate  was not  legally  valid  in  the  first  place -  the  original  PCN  is  struck  out.  All  that  the  statutory  decalaration  has  done  is  cancel  an  already  legally  invalid  charge  certificate ?.

On  what  grounds  could  I  argue  this  point -  that  the  contravention  did  not  occur (  even  though  the  council  have  a  video  of  me  making  a  prohibited  right  turn ? ) -   could  I  claim  costs  against  the  council ?.

I  have  still   not  received  a  Notice  of  Rejection  either  from  the  council  before  the  appeal,  and  a  copy  of  it  is  not  present  in  the  bundle.

The  council  have  sent  me  a  bundle  which  they  have  sent  to  the  PATAS,  they  have  not  enclosed  the  Charge  Certificate,  Traffic  Management  Order  or  the  Rejection  Notice.(  even  though  the  checklist  states  that  it  has  enclosed  the  last  two  documents ).  The  authorised  officer  witness  statement   declares  that  the   CCTV   recording  was  made  in  accordance  with  the  code  of  practice  - see  below -  I  have  read   the  code,  and   the  recording  appears  to  have  been  made  in  breach  of  the  codes .

I  want  a  hearing  in  person,  would  I  have  to  write  to  PATAS ?

In  the  meantime,  should  I  request  disclosure  of   the   'Traffic  Management  Order',   'Rejection  Notice'  ?   and  if  they  are  not  provided  to  me  -  can  the  adjudicator  take  this  in  to  account  ?.

The  original  PCN  as  follows:  (  the  ticket  states  that  the  operator  was observing real time pictures  -  if  so - the   contravention  occurred  on  the   26th  February  2007,   and  the  date  of  the  notice  is  19th  March  2007,  it  took  them  just over three  weeks  to  post  it  to  me.  This  strongly  suggests  that  the  tape  had  been  played  back  to  reveal  the  alleged  contravention - not  in  real  time ).  I  don't  know  if  this  invalidates  the  statement  made  in  the  PCN ?.  Is  there  any  statutory  time  frame  that  the  council  have  to  comply  with  in  regards  to  the  actual  date  of  the  contravention  and  service  of  the  notice ?.

The  statutory  case  summary  in  the  bundle  states " The  PCN  was  served  to  Mr  X  by  first  class  post  within  14  days  of  the  contravention  occurring,  after  enquiry  to  the  DVLA" -  but  look  at  the  dates -  it  took  almost  three  weeks  before  it  was  served  on  me ! (  not  within  14  days ).

I  have  visited  the  site  and  have  noticed  that  the  camera  is  fixed  to  a  lamp-post  with  no  enforcement  camera  signage  on  the  lamp-post  or  the  three  entrance  roads  that  lead  in  to  controlled  zone.  The  camera  was  recently  removed  for  about  3  months  but  has  now  suddenly  re-appeared.  It  really  appears  to  be  a  covert  camera  as  there  is  no  signage  as  to  how  the  controlled  zone  is  going  to  be  enforced -  camera 's  actual  picture:

I  have  checked  up  on  the  Data  Protection  Act  1998 -  and  there  is  no  indication  that  moving  images  are  going  to  be  recorded  anywhere  near  the  camera -  can  this  be  argued  in  front  of  the  Adjudicator ?.  The  DPA  1998  states  that  under  the  'First  Data  Principle' -( fair processing ) signage  should  be  present  declaring  presence  of  CCTV.

I  have  also  consulted  the   London  Councils  Codes  of  Practice  when  using  CCTV,  and  they  state  that  signage  should  be  present  as  a  minimum  in  order  to  comply  with  best  practice.  I  am  not  sure  if  non -compliance  is  something  that  will  make  the  camera  evidence  unlawful  or  whether  it  is  something  that  the  Adjudicator  will  consider.

Thank  you  for  reading  this  post (  I  do  apologise  for  the  length )  and  any  opinions / advice  will  be  greatly  appreciated.

 

 

 
New Post 20/06/2008 18:17
User is offline jomo1972
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Re: Re : Charge Certificate - Ealing Council 

I've got an invalid Charge Certificate from Islington Borough Council.  It doesn't comply with Lukha v Ayelsbury.  Not sure what to do with it though.  I didn't know that it cancelled the original PCN.

 
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